Boy Scouts Bad Luck

Ya gotta pitty the Boy Scouts this year. At their Jamboree in the NoVA burbs this past week all hell broke loose. First off, a North Carolina man, 57, died of a heart attack Sunday, which the Scouts only acknoledged when quizzed by the press.

Then four Alaska Scout leaders were electrocuted Monday while trying to put up a tent. While they apperently get merit badges for the effort, a Boy Scouts spokesman, Gregg Shields, suggested that the Alaska leaders might not have followed Scout teachings that warn against pitching tents under trees or power lines.

Next up, searing heat sickened more than 300 Scouts on Wednesday after thousands of Scouts, clad in full uniforms, march and then sat under a blazing sun. About 40 even needed hospitalization.

Tonight, they’re to get a visit by President Bush, which was postponed twice already. Now I wonder if he’s gonna tell them about my favorite “what were they thinking?” staute in DC

3 Comments so far

  1. UnusualCandor (unregistered) on July 31st, 2005 @ 5:20 pm

    Wayan, you are right. The Boy Scouts have not had the best week. But in true scout fashion, they have kept on and did the things that they came out to NOVA to do. They learned valuable outdoor skills, met other scouts from around the country, and even the world, and they learned to be better people.

    But Wayan, you ruined what started out to be a decent post by then talking ill of the Boy Scouts.

    That “what were they thinking statue” you are talking about has an actual meaning. From here, you can read what it means.

    “The memorial stands on the site of the First Boy Scout Jamboree in 1937. The two nearly naked figures represent Manhood and Womanhood; the realistic Boy Scout is leading them into the future.”

    My last comment has to do with your ascertain that the Boy Scouts are “seriously homophobic” is insulting to all of us who grew up as scouts and especially those of us who earned our Eagle Scout.

    The Boy Scouts has been an organization that teaches many young men and women (yes women, with Exploring and Venturing) how to be better people. Yes, they have a policy restricting the membership of homosexual scouts and leaders. First, as a private organization, they are allowed to do that. Second, it is not because of “homophobia”, it is because there is a belief that that lifestyle does not match the values that we believe in and want to teach.

    And finally, let me leave you with the Scout Oath:

    On my honor, I will do my best, to do my duty, to God and my Country, and to obey the Scout Law. To help other people at all times, to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.


  2. wayan (unregistered) on July 31st, 2005 @ 6:23 pm

    Interesting. You say homosexuality is not a “lifestyle” that you want to teach, implying it’s not “morally straight”, like that in itself is not a homophobic or at least ignorant/insulting statement.

    Homosexuality is not a lifestyle, not a choice, not what someone wakes up one day and decides, like if they want to be an Eagle Scout or not. It’s something that people are born with, people who are just as moral, God & Country, and strong in mind and body as anyone else. Even Eagle Scouts.


  3. HeardAndNotSeen (unregistered) on August 9th, 2005 @ 6:00 pm

    Regardless of the fairly innocuous symbolic nature of the statue, it is a bit disarming and suggestive to see a little boy scout leading a relatively naked couple onward and upward.

    Still, the main point here is the Scouts’ stand on homosexuality and the exclusion of those who deviate from what the organization deems to be a sexually appropriate orientation. If teaching boys and girls to be better people and follow the Oath are indeed the goals of the Boy Scouts, I would think having leaders that teach in word and deed values such as: acceptance of all people (helping others), open-mindedness (mentally awake), and discouraging exclusion (morally straight) due to a genetic reality would fall into the category of bettering the citizens of tomorrow.

    A friend of mine is bisexual and was a very involved Eagle Scout during his high school years. In a conversation with him on this very topic, he added a little humor into the mix and had this to say:

    “The Boy Scouts is like a mecca for the gay child. Imagine hundreds of little boys in neckerchiefs, painstakingly sewing badges they earned for homemaking activities, like baking, onto their snug-fitting uniforms, anxiously awaiting the next jamboree… for the Scouts to take this stand with their members would do serious damage to their numbers.”

    All kidding aside, this organization needs to reassess what it defines as its goal because that Oath and their actions are oxymoronic.



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