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	<title>Comments on: Foray Into Foreclosures, Part II</title>
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		<title>By: bhrome</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2008/03/24/foray-into-foreclosures-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-13380</link>
		<dc:creator>bhrome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies, lydia. You&#039;re right, I *do* need to show some better sensitivity. Just frustrating that 13 of 14 houses all had the same pattern within an area really makes you go &quot;WTF?&quot; 

And my point about &quot;knowing what&#039;s going on&quot; in regards to the crisis (bad choice of words, I realize) wasn&#039;t to vault onto a high horse, only to show that I do understand financial matters pretty well and am not a completely ignorant fool. Just a snarky one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies, lydia. You&#8217;re right, I *do* need to show some better sensitivity. Just frustrating that 13 of 14 houses all had the same pattern within an area really makes you go &quot;WTF?&quot; </p>
<p>And my point about &quot;knowing what&#8217;s going on&quot; in regards to the crisis (bad choice of words, I realize) wasn&#8217;t to vault onto a high horse, only to show that I do understand financial matters pretty well and am not a completely ignorant fool. Just a snarky one.</p>
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		<title>By: lydia</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2008/03/24/foray-into-foreclosures-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-13379</link>
		<dc:creator>lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And my point is not that you shouldn&#039;t expect those things--you should.  I would do the same. My point is to show some senstivity when you&#039;re blogging about people getting foreclosed on and the state in which they leave their houses--because, *unlike you*, who are in the position of buying a house, they are experiencing real financial desperation. 

And, I might add, get off your high horse about how you &quot;know what&#039;s going on&quot; in the mortgage crisis. Real estate broker though you may be, it ain&#039;t much of a title. My point was that even economists don&#039;t understand the market standards that brought us here--yet you have just one question for these &quot;faceless, foreclosed souls&quot;: how did they get so greedy? it presupposes that greedy lendees are the cause of this mess! That is so freaking ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And my point is not that you shouldn&#8217;t expect those things&#8211;you should.  I would do the same. My point is to show some senstivity when you&#8217;re blogging about people getting foreclosed on and the state in which they leave their houses&#8211;because, *unlike you*, who are in the position of buying a house, they are experiencing real financial desperation. </p>
<p>And, I might add, get off your high horse about how you &quot;know what&#8217;s going on&quot; in the mortgage crisis. Real estate broker though you may be, it ain&#8217;t much of a title. My point was that even economists don&#8217;t understand the market standards that brought us here&#8211;yet you have just one question for these &quot;faceless, foreclosed souls&quot;: how did they get so greedy? it presupposes that greedy lendees are the cause of this mess! That is so freaking ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: bhrome</title>
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		<dc:creator>bhrome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I know what&#039;s going on in the &quot;mortgage crisis.&quot; I used to be a Realtor, for one; I have many connections in the field, for second; and I do extensive research both with my agent and with various brokers.

Now, my above remarks are mainly from our last outing. In a few neighborhoods where the list pricing was about $600K. These are decidedly not &quot;poor people&quot; but middle-class areas. I know a few friends who admittedly bought more than they could afford and have had to take in boarders in order to meet their new financial obligations. I *do* feel bad that people are suffering here - and regardless of the time of market, this was the year we&#039;d be looking for a home, crisis or no.

My observations come more than simply from &quot;failing to mop the floor.&quot; We&#039;re talking, in no particular order:

*Holes in wall (not nail holes - fist holes or larger)
*Fridges with spoiled food to the point of creating new life forms
*Torn and shredded wallpaper, with dents and cuts in the drywall underneath
*Gouges in hardwood floors
*Hundreds of burn holes in carpeting
*Unknown substances smeared into carpeting
*Broken windows and seals
*Ripped out plumbing
*Deadbolt locks on interior doors - and no key to open room
*Untold piles of trash shoved into the foundation spaces
*Burnt wiring
*Open wires in the ceiling
*Chewed crown molding (from pets, I hope)

And a few other things I won&#039;t gross you out with.

A house for sale that needs some paint and a little cleaning isn&#039;t a big deal to me. It&#039;s expected. But look at that above list - would YOU buy a home with any or all of those present? Call me a prick, but I won&#039;t.

Again, I reiterate - these are $600K+ homes. Even at the height of the housing &quot;boom&quot;, the &quot;poor people&quot; couldn&#039;t afford these places. 

And yes, some fault lies with the Realtor listing the house. But that whole &quot;Sold As-Is&quot; clause is pretty much widely used these days.

The bottom line is, I&#039;m not looking for &quot;snapping up a house on the cheap.&quot; I&#039;m looking for a home for my family because we *have to*, and I&#039;m going to pass on property that makes me want to retch in the weeds after touring it. Is it too much to ask for some common decency in this process?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I know what&#8217;s going on in the &quot;mortgage crisis.&quot; I used to be a Realtor, for one; I have many connections in the field, for second; and I do extensive research both with my agent and with various brokers.</p>
<p>Now, my above remarks are mainly from our last outing. In a few neighborhoods where the list pricing was about $600K. These are decidedly not &quot;poor people&quot; but middle-class areas. I know a few friends who admittedly bought more than they could afford and have had to take in boarders in order to meet their new financial obligations. I *do* feel bad that people are suffering here &#8211; and regardless of the time of market, this was the year we&#8217;d be looking for a home, crisis or no.</p>
<p>My observations come more than simply from &quot;failing to mop the floor.&quot; We&#8217;re talking, in no particular order:</p>
<p>*Holes in wall (not nail holes &#8211; fist holes or larger)<br />
*Fridges with spoiled food to the point of creating new life forms<br />
*Torn and shredded wallpaper, with dents and cuts in the drywall underneath<br />
*Gouges in hardwood floors<br />
*Hundreds of burn holes in carpeting<br />
*Unknown substances smeared into carpeting<br />
*Broken windows and seals<br />
*Ripped out plumbing<br />
*Deadbolt locks on interior doors &#8211; and no key to open room<br />
*Untold piles of trash shoved into the foundation spaces<br />
*Burnt wiring<br />
*Open wires in the ceiling<br />
*Chewed crown molding (from pets, I hope)</p>
<p>And a few other things I won&#8217;t gross you out with.</p>
<p>A house for sale that needs some paint and a little cleaning isn&#8217;t a big deal to me. It&#8217;s expected. But look at that above list &#8211; would YOU buy a home with any or all of those present? Call me a prick, but I won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Again, I reiterate &#8211; these are $600K+ homes. Even at the height of the housing &quot;boom&quot;, the &quot;poor people&quot; couldn&#8217;t afford these places. </p>
<p>And yes, some fault lies with the Realtor listing the house. But that whole &quot;Sold As-Is&quot; clause is pretty much widely used these days.</p>
<p>The bottom line is, I&#8217;m not looking for &quot;snapping up a house on the cheap.&quot; I&#8217;m looking for a home for my family because we *have to*, and I&#8217;m going to pass on property that makes me want to retch in the weeds after touring it. Is it too much to ask for some common decency in this process?</p>
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		<title>By: lydia</title>
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		<dc:creator>lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand completely that you, as buyer looking for a house to live in, not to rent or flip, want a clean place. But I do not understand your flippant lack of sensitivity about what&#039;s really going on in the mortgage crisis. The crisis is not that poor people got &quot;greedy&quot; and decided, &quot;hey, sure, I&#039;ll live beyond my means for a bit, trash my place, get foreclosed on and pass on the trashed house to bhrome.&quot; You are looking into a slice of life where true economic desperation has taken hold--I&#039;m sure these foreclosed folks really do not care that they didn&#039;t mop the floor for you. 

I don&#039;t mean that people with low-incomes don&#039;t understand the loans they signed on to, but the fact is that economists are still trying to figure out the market that created this mess. Don&#039;t saddle the foreclosed-upon with your complaints at this point, just when YOU, lucky dog, can snap up a house on the cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand completely that you, as buyer looking for a house to live in, not to rent or flip, want a clean place. But I do not understand your flippant lack of sensitivity about what&#8217;s really going on in the mortgage crisis. The crisis is not that poor people got &quot;greedy&quot; and decided, &quot;hey, sure, I&#8217;ll live beyond my means for a bit, trash my place, get foreclosed on and pass on the trashed house to bhrome.&quot; You are looking into a slice of life where true economic desperation has taken hold&#8211;I&#8217;m sure these foreclosed folks really do not care that they didn&#8217;t mop the floor for you. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean that people with low-incomes don&#8217;t understand the loans they signed on to, but the fact is that economists are still trying to figure out the market that created this mess. Don&#8217;t saddle the foreclosed-upon with your complaints at this point, just when YOU, lucky dog, can snap up a house on the cheap.</p>
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