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	<title>Comments on: Police Action in Petworth with Officer No-Photo</title>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2007/09/25/police-action-in-petworth-with-officer-no-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-11170</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know where Mike has been getting his information but he&#039;s stating something in complete opposition to &lt;a href=&quot;http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/frames.asp?doc=/mpdc/lib/mpdc/news/media/pdf/go_spt_204_01.pdf&amp;group=1542&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the department&#039;s written policies, viewable here.&lt;/a&gt;

There&#039;s several sections that could apply but the likely section here is at the end. (p8 of link)

(emphasis mine)

&lt;blockquote&gt;VIDEO TAPING - News media members may photograph or videotape police officers performing their official duties. Officers will not physically block or cover the lenses of cameras or video taping equipment. &lt;b&gt;Members in accordance with General Order 204.1 will not assist nor hinder camerapersons at scenes.&lt;/b&gt; Members will not bring the media into private residences as part of a crime scene or police raid. COURTS HAVE RULED THAT MEMBERS MAY BE HELD LIABLE TO CIVIL SUIT FOR SUCH ACTIONS.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s several sections talking about the &lt;b&gt;release&lt;/b&gt; of information to the press, and when that&#039;s appropriate, however even then the only people who are spelled out to be shielded are victims (p4 of the above linked document). So if they stop someone who struck a pedestrian Wayan would be free to photograph anyone, including the victim, however the police guidelines may prevent them from &lt;b&gt;telling&lt;/b&gt; Wayan any information they gather about the victim.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where Mike has been getting his information but he&#8217;s stating something in complete opposition to <a href="http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/frames.asp?doc=/mpdc/lib/mpdc/news/media/pdf/go_spt_204_01.pdf&amp;group=1542" rel="nofollow">the department&#8217;s written policies, viewable here.</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s several sections that could apply but the likely section here is at the end. (p8 of link)</p>
<p>(emphasis mine)</p>
<blockquote><p>VIDEO TAPING &#8211; News media members may photograph or videotape police officers performing their official duties. Officers will not physically block or cover the lenses of cameras or video taping equipment. <b>Members in accordance with General Order 204.1 will not assist nor hinder camerapersons at scenes.</b> Members will not bring the media into private residences as part of a crime scene or police raid. COURTS HAVE RULED THAT MEMBERS MAY BE HELD LIABLE TO CIVIL SUIT FOR SUCH ACTIONS.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s several sections talking about the <b>release</b> of information to the press, and when that&#8217;s appropriate, however even then the only people who are spelled out to be shielded are victims (p4 of the above linked document). So if they stop someone who struck a pedestrian Wayan would be free to photograph anyone, including the victim, however the police guidelines may prevent them from <b>telling</b> Wayan any information they gather about the victim.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayan</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2007/09/25/police-action-in-petworth-with-officer-no-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-11169</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now having a stated policy that photography is not allowed is even more troubling than an officer saying &quot;no photography&quot;, Mike.  I sure hope you are referring to press trying to cover a crime scene and not the situation I am referring to - traffic police operating in a fully public area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now having a stated policy that photography is not allowed is even more troubling than an officer saying &#8220;no photography&#8221;, Mike.  I sure hope you are referring to press trying to cover a crime scene and not the situation I am referring to &#8211; traffic police operating in a fully public area.</p>
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		<title>By: KCinDC</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2007/09/25/police-action-in-petworth-with-officer-no-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-11168</link>
		<dc:creator>KCinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stated policy is to say that photographing police actions is not allowed, Mike?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stated policy is to say that photographing police actions is not allowed, Mike?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Licht</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2007/09/25/police-action-in-petworth-with-officer-no-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-11167</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Licht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The policy for officers when dealing with credentialed members of the press is on the MPDC web site (sorry I don&#039;t have the URL right now - it is a PDF). As you report it the officer followed the stated policy to the letter - he was a professional and treated you like one, even though you don&#039;t mention displaying credentials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The policy for officers when dealing with credentialed members of the press is on the MPDC web site (sorry I don&#8217;t have the URL right now &#8211; it is a PDF). As you report it the officer followed the stated policy to the letter &#8211; he was a professional and treated you like one, even though you don&#8217;t mention displaying credentials.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayan</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2007/09/25/police-action-in-petworth-with-officer-no-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-11166</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiff,

You&#039;re right.  Had the cop said &quot;Look, I&#039;d appreciate it if you didn&#039;t take photos while we&#039;re pulling people over... we&#039;re not trying to publically embarass anyone here,&quot;

I would have laughed, accepted his point, and skipped out on taking the photo of him pulling someone over.  I didn&#039;t care about the driver - its the action of pulling over a speeder that I wanted to celebrate.  

Wait, lets make that really clear &lt;b&gt;I wanted to celebrate the traffic cops work&lt;/b&gt;.

My goal was to have a big splashy photo of DC MPD pulling over a car so I could write a &quot;Take That Petworth Lead Foot Drivers!&quot;

While that might not have excited Xian, it does excite those of us who dodge 45+ mph drag racers.  But instead, I get an arrogant MPD response, tarnishing my impression of my city&#039;s police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiff,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right.  Had the cop said &#8220;Look, I&#8217;d appreciate it if you didn&#8217;t take photos while we&#8217;re pulling people over&#8230; we&#8217;re not trying to publically embarass anyone here,&#8221;</p>
<p>I would have laughed, accepted his point, and skipped out on taking the photo of him pulling someone over.  I didn&#8217;t care about the driver &#8211; its the action of pulling over a speeder that I wanted to celebrate.  </p>
<p>Wait, lets make that really clear <b>I wanted to celebrate the traffic cops work</b>.</p>
<p>My goal was to have a big splashy photo of DC MPD pulling over a car so I could write a &#8220;Take That Petworth Lead Foot Drivers!&#8221;</p>
<p>While that might not have excited Xian, it does excite those of us who dodge 45+ mph drag racers.  But instead, I get an arrogant MPD response, tarnishing my impression of my city&#8217;s police.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayan</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2007/09/25/police-action-in-petworth-with-officer-no-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-11165</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max,

I assume you mean &quot;photographing a police action legal&quot; not illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,</p>
<p>I assume you mean &#8220;photographing a police action legal&#8221; not illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Edison</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2007/09/25/police-action-in-petworth-with-officer-no-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-11164</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Edison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Who cares?&quot; I care, and so do all good Americans. If that cop doesn&#039;t like it, he can go back to North Korea or Cuba or wherever he is from and intimidate people there. Not only is photographing a police action illegal, I would maintain that it is mandatory. What is he afraid of, except fear itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who cares?&#8221; I care, and so do all good Americans. If that cop doesn&#8217;t like it, he can go back to North Korea or Cuba or wherever he is from and intimidate people there. Not only is photographing a police action illegal, I would maintain that it is mandatory. What is he afraid of, except fear itself?</p>
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		<title>By: Tiff</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2007/09/25/police-action-in-petworth-with-officer-no-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-11163</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That may be a fair point, Mike Licht, but if that&#039;s the case, it&#039;s not so hard for the officer to say in a conciliatory fashion, &quot;Look, I&#039;d appreciate it if you didn&#039;t take photos while we&#039;re pulling people over... we&#039;re not trying to publically embarass anyone here,&quot; rather than trying to forbid something he has no right to forbid.  

At that point, Wayan could accept that explanation and agree not to take photos, he could position himself to capture the cops (which appears to be more or less the end result here), but not the motorist, or he could reject the request entirely and take his photos anyway (which comes back to the &quot;within your rights, but still kind of a dick move&quot; debate we had earlier this summer).  

But it doesn&#039;t do anyone&#039;s civil liberties any good when the man with the gun and the power to arrest you tells you that you can&#039;t do something that is a constitutionally-protected right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That may be a fair point, Mike Licht, but if that&#8217;s the case, it&#8217;s not so hard for the officer to say in a conciliatory fashion, &#8220;Look, I&#8217;d appreciate it if you didn&#8217;t take photos while we&#8217;re pulling people over&#8230; we&#8217;re not trying to publically embarass anyone here,&#8221; rather than trying to forbid something he has no right to forbid.  </p>
<p>At that point, Wayan could accept that explanation and agree not to take photos, he could position himself to capture the cops (which appears to be more or less the end result here), but not the motorist, or he could reject the request entirely and take his photos anyway (which comes back to the &#8220;within your rights, but still kind of a dick move&#8221; debate we had earlier this summer).  </p>
<p>But it doesn&#8217;t do anyone&#8217;s civil liberties any good when the man with the gun and the power to arrest you tells you that you can&#8217;t do something that is a constitutionally-protected right.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Licht</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2007/09/25/police-action-in-petworth-with-officer-no-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-11162</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Licht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayan: Be sure to text us when you get pulled over for speeding --we&#039;ll take your photo and run it on the web.

I think the cop didn&#039;t want to humiliate the speeders, just ticket &#039;em. Doesn&#039;t sound so bad to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayan: Be sure to text us when you get pulled over for speeding &#8211;we&#8217;ll take your photo and run it on the web.</p>
<p>I think the cop didn&#8217;t want to humiliate the speeders, just ticket &#8216;em. Doesn&#8217;t sound so bad to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip Py</title>
		<link>http://dc.metblogs.com/2007/09/25/police-action-in-petworth-with-officer-no-photo/comment-page-1/#comment-11161</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip Py</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Wayan. If he has time to let the cop know, then he should.

But then what would I know about these things.

Chip Py
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Wayan. If he has time to let the cop know, then he should.</p>
<p>But then what would I know about these things.</p>
<p>Chip Py<br />
Silver Spring MD</p>
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